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Multi-Role 2Mot?

Post  CCDK79 on Fri Jan 22, 2016 2:48 am

Just a question: Now I get the concept of multi Role, like the night fighter etc, but what's 2Mot? Second line? Rear Area fighter defense?

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Re: Multi-Role 2Mot?

Post  Chromos on Fri Jan 22, 2016 8:43 pm

CCDK79 wrote:Just a question: Now I get the concept of multi Role, like the night fighter etc, but what's 2Mot? Second line? Rear Area fighter defense?
These are the 2 engine Fighters, BF110, Mosquito, P-38 etc..

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Re: Multi-Role 2Mot?

Post  CCDK79 on Fri Jan 22, 2016 9:44 pm

ah - 2 motoren - sure.

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Re: Multi-Role 2Mot?

Post  Chromos on Fri Jan 22, 2016 9:48 pm

Maybe renaming them to twin-mot/ twin-eng will be more clear?

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Re: Multi-Role 2Mot?

Post  CCDK79 on Fri Jan 22, 2016 10:03 pm

I suppose the I would have figured it out once the 4 Mot appeared in the roster.
Are there 4 mot multi role?
isn't multi role enough, without adding how many engines there are? one two three or four?
if Needed multirole (Single engine) - versus heavy/hvy multirole with more than one engine

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Re: Multi-Role 2Mot?

Post  Chromos on Sat Jan 23, 2016 10:43 pm

To clarify things out. Here is a short description of what I had in mind when designing these different types:
It is to have most of all planes in the game with their own modell for different roles.
You have now the initial Hawker as a fighter and the later as Multirole(FighterBomber), while the Spitfire would be a Fighter.
Similar to Me109 E would be Fighter, while Me109 G would be Multirole, and Me109k could be an early interceptor.


Description and names used in "AHOI-Mod-Treasure"
long: Zeppelin;Zeppelin;Zeppelin;;Zeppelin;;;;;;;;;x,,
short: Zepp;Zepp;Zepp;;Zepp;;;;;;;;;x,,
Pretty obvious, the famous ones.


long: Fighter aircraft;Avion de chasse;Jagdflugzeug;;Avión de caza;;;;;;;;;x,,
short: Ftr;Chass.;Jg;;Caz;;;;;;;;;x,,
The basic fighter planes from WW1 to WW2.. Not specialized.


long: Multi-Role;Multirôle;Mehrzweckjäger;;Polivalente;;;;;;;;;x,,
short: Ftr  M;Chass.  M;MzJg;;Caz M;;;;;;;;;x,,
Fighter-Bomber version of planes like Me-109, FW-190, Hawker Hurricane, P-47..


long: Interceptor;Intercepteur;Abfangjäger;;Interceptor;;;;;;;;;x,,
short: Int F;Int.;AbfJg.;;Ca Int;;;;;;;;;x,,
Interceptor are the special Fighter planes especially designed to intercept bomber planes like eg. TA-152 or other high altitude piston fighters.


long: Multi-Role 2mot;Multirôle 2mot;2mot. Mehrzweckjäger;;Polivalente 2mot;;;;;;;;;x,,
short: Ftr 2mot;Chass. 2mot;2mot-MzJg;;Caz 2mot;;;;;;;;;x,,
The mentioned BF110, Mosquito, P-38 etc..


long: Close Air Support;Soutien aérien rappr.;Schlachtflugzeug;;Apoyo aéreo de proximidad;;;;;;;;;x,,
short: CAS;BEP;S-Flzg.;;AAP;;;;;;;;;x,,
All those special CAS-types like Ju-87, Iljuschin Il-2 etc..


long: Naval Bomber;Bombardier naval;Marinebomber;;Bomb. naval;;;;;;;;;x,,
short: Nav;Bomb. Nav.;NAV;;Nav;;;;;;;;;x,,
All those planes wich were used in naval bomber role. Starting from Catalina up to FW-200 to the late navy patrol bombers like Consolidated PB4Y-2 Privateer.


long: Carrier Air Group;Gr. aérien embarqué;CAG;;Grupo aéreo portaav.;;;;;;;;;x,,
short: CAG;GAE;CAG;;GAE;;;;;;;;;,,
Carrier based planes..


long: Light Bomber;Bombardier léger;Leichter Bomber;;Bomb. ligero;;;;;;;;;x,,
short: Light -Bomb.;Bomb -leg;Lt.- Bomb;;Bomb -lig;;;;;;;;;x,,
All those single engine bombers that were used by some nations like Fairey Battle.


long: Medium Bomber;Bombardier moy.;Mittlerer Bomber;;Bombardero medio;;;;;;;;;x,,
short: Med -Bomb.;Bomb -moy;Mtl.  Bomb;;Bomb -med;;;;;;;;;x,,
All those 2-engine Bombers like He111, Ilyushin Il-4, Mitsubishi G4M, North American B-25 Mitchell..


long: Heavy Bomber;Bombardier lourd;Schwerer Bomber;;Bombardero pesado;;;;;;;;;x,,
short: Hvy -Bomb.;Bomb -lourd;Schw.  Bomb;;Bomb -pes;;;;;;;;;x,,
The big ones.. B-17, B-24, Nakajima G8N, Avro Lancaster, Handley Page Halifax, Heinkel He 177, Junkers Ju 390..


long: Transport Plane;Avion de transport;Transportflugzeug;;Avión de transporte;;;;;;;;;x,,
short: Tra;Avion de trans.;Tra;;Tra;;;;;;;;;x,,
All Transport planes, starting with the 2 engine ones like DC-3 or 3 engine like Ju52 to bigger 4+ engines types..


long: Flying Bomb;Bombe volante;Flugbombe;;Bomba vol.;;;;;;;;;x,,
short: V1;V1;V1;;V1;;;;;;;;;x,,
Initial smart bombs


long: Flying Rocket;Fusée volante;Rakete;;Cohete volante;;;;;;;;;x,,
short: V2;V2;V2;;V2;;;;;;;;;x,,
Long range strategic rockets..

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Re: Multi-Role 2Mot?

Post  CCDK79 on Sat Jan 23, 2016 11:25 pm

Multi-Role;Multirôle;Mehrzweckjäger
Hvy Multi-Role;Multirôle Lourd? ; Schw Mehrzweckjäger/Zerstörer

Very good, You would never call it motor for one in English, but engined, secondly the number of engines is beside the point. If I'm not mistaken the Germans used the term Zerstörer but Mehrzweck and Schwerer Mehrzweck would work too, English speaking people wouldn't be familiar with the Airforce Destroyer concept it would just complicate things, the easiest thing would be Multirole and Hvy Multirole, not so much to diff between number of engines, but their weight, payload etc, able to handle escort fighters or not, that sort of thing

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Re: Multi-Role 2Mot?

Post  Chromos on Sun Jan 24, 2016 9:49 am

Afaik P-38 was designed as "Interceptor", and initial GER Zerstörer were single engine planes.
So I iirc, I went for the 2 engined planes that were slightly different from the most Light Bombers wich were mostly single engine planes.
And "Mot" was maybe just because of me using my "Denglish" in a late night modding session. Very Happy

The suggested names are good imo. After I checked up the "mighty wikipedia" I might tend to name them just heavy fighters though.
As those were almost all twin engine planes.

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long: Multi-Role;Multirôle;Mehrzweckjäger;;Polivalente;;;;;;;;;x,,
short: Ftr  M;Chass.  M;MzJg;;Caz P;;;;;;;;;x,,

long: Heavy fighter;Chasseur lourd;Schwerer Jäger;;Caza pesado;;;;;;;;;x,,
short: Hvy -Ftr;Chass -lourd;Schw. Jg;;Caz -pes;;;;;;;;;x,,

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Re: Multi-Role 2Mot?

Post  CCDK79 on Sun Jan 24, 2016 10:12 am

Sounds great, an improvement over the mot thing anywho - Gotta say, I am really enjoying myself with this mod of yours. Currently I am sweating over the fact that the useless Italians are stuck in Ethiopia - that small lake between Eritrea and Addis Abeba they have, but thats it, and it's mid 1937, China is heating up.

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Re: Multi-Role 2Mot?

Post  Chromos on Thu Jan 28, 2016 12:36 am

Great!
Looking forward to read how it went out for you.

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