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Post  Chromos Sat Aug 22, 2015 2:03 pm

Blitzkrieg or Canae? -The origin of German doctrine used in WW2
Ususally Germany gets the term Blitzkrieg attached when thought about wich Doctrine it had used in WW2.
Blitzkrieg (German, "lightning war") is an anglicised term, describing a method of warfare, whereby an attacking force spearheaded by a dense concentration of armoured and motorized or mechanized infantry formations with close air support, breaks through the opponent's line of defense by short, fast, powerful attacks and then dislocates the defenders, using speed and surprise to encircle them. Through the employment of combined arms in maneuver warfare, blitzkrieg attempts to unbalance the enemy by making it difficult for them to respond to the continuously changing front and defeating them in a decisive Vernichtungsschlacht (battle of annihilation).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blitzkrieg

However, it is historically known, that this is not correct. There never ever was a "Blitzkrieg Doctrine". Instead Germany just used the old "Canae Doctrine" with new technically possibilities of that time to conduct its old way of highly effective warfare wich it was used and trained for since nearly 100 years.
The real German doctrine used in WW2 should thus be named according to it like "Modern Canae Doctrine". It was based on the thoughts of Schlieffen and von Moltke before him -highly influenced by the experience of the battles against Napoleon.
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Origin of German doctrine -Moltke's theory of war:
After the defeat of the Prussian Army against Napoleon Bonaparte, they looked closely on why that happend to them. They thought out a way to copy the best parts of Napoleons Army/way of leading. That Napoleon Army of that time fought -even with conscripts- a highly flexible war of manoeuvre.
But the Prussian War Academy was only formally established after the defeat of Napoleon and was an elite school. Important names here are Blücher, von Gneisenau, von Scharnhorst and of course von Clausewitz.
Next to von Clausewitz philosophical groundwork about warfare, important parts of lessons learned are:

  1. Know your enemy and your location/terrain.
  2. Speed of operation is important.
  3. Use surprise whenever possible, use #2 whenever needed.
  4. Hit hard with overwhelming forces if possible and defeat his local forces.
    "superior combat power at the decisive point" -Jomini -> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antoine-Henri_Jomini
    Moltke found that enveloping is more important as massing forces at the main battle though!
  5. Disrupt the enemies supply/command chain, "hit his nerves".
  6. Take advantage out of the confusion and try to disable the enemies ability to set up a new defense(#1!).
  7. win..

The most important parts are thus speed and information. To make the most out of this both parts, the commander (on all levels!) needs to be able to make the right decsions quickly.
Moltke the Elder lead the school beginnin in 1858 and trained the German General staff about the lessons learned. This further shaped/formed the body of the later infamous German General Staff ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_General_Staff ).

Moltke's theory of war in more detail:
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Reading about Moltke above leads also to the birth of the the Tactical Doctrine "Führen mit Auftrag“ (German: "Leading with Mission-Order") or also known under the term "Auftragstaktik" (Mission-type tactics).
Every NCO and Officer had to learn two positions up his command. So he could think like his direct commanders and would likely act as them when encountering changing battelfield situations or even take up their role if needed (superiors died etc..). So he could/would act in changing situations as he would be the commanding officer. That way the German Army was able to take advantage of changing battlefield situations more quickly as their adversaries that had to wait for new orders. Germans where encouraged to decide on their own towards of the military goal.

.... We always felt superior toward the Russians .... we were not afraid of them...." (General von Mellenthin)
Throughout the discussions it was clear that both the German Generals considered the individuality of the German fighting man - his freedom to take initiative and the system which engendered these policies and attitudes - to be the key to superlative German performance.
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At WW2, Germany has that way a military tradition of nearly 100 years in conducting such style of warfare and thus an big advantage in this area over other countries.
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Post  CCDK79 Wed Jan 20, 2016 8:23 pm

ever heard of Aleksei Alekseevich Brusilov? - ww1 general, Russia, used a variant of the German Sturmtruppen Prinzip with some success during ww1.

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Post  Chromos Thu Jan 21, 2016 10:46 am

CCDK79 wrote:ever heard of Aleksei Alekseevich Brusilov? - ww1 general, Russia, used a variant of the German Sturmtruppen Prinzip with some success during ww1.
Sure. Smile
Intersting though, that according to Gen. Balck and Col. von Uslar-Gleichen, there never was such "Sturmtruppen" or von Hutiers tactics. And at least Balck served in WW1 already..
Look:
https://scootapedia.files.wordpress.com/2010/11/balck_mellenthin.pdf
The Von Hutier Issue
Perhaps only military historians will be interested, but the discussions led to a somewhat surprising exchange on the nature of evolution of German tactics. British and American historians have long put forth the theory that General von Hutier's infiltration tactics using Stosstruppen (assault troops), first employed with great success against the Russians at Riga in World War I, were the lineal forbearers of the Blitz tactics of World War II. General Balck professed ignorant of this connection.

Mr. Dunnigan: "At the end of World War I, the German Army developed what we call infiltration tactics, Stosstruppen, many energetic officers were attracted to that type of service. Did you find there was any carry-over in that mentality among those officers and troops to your tactics in World War II?"

Mr. Sprey:(Translating in German) "In the U. S. we talk a lot about the infiltration technique  of the First World War. By that they mean the breaking in with shock troops to open the enemy position, and then to follow with the other forces. The question is, does the mentality of the shock troop leader have any influence an the tank troops [Leader] or otherwise?"

Gen. Balck: "The last part of the First World War, I was in attack units (Stosstruppen).

" Mr. Sprey: "Was not the so-called Alpen Corps predominantly attackoriented?"

Gen. Balck: "[It was] one of the best attack units, and I never noticed anything of this method  of infiltration, we did not use it. We suppressed the enemy fire by strong artillery and then we deployed."

Mr. Sprey: "What here in the States is called 'Von Hutier tactics' is  not known in Germany?"  

Gen. Balck: "I can only say that I went through practically everything, but that is something  that I did not experience."1/ p.59-60


In a separate conversation later, Col. von Uslar-Gleichen, the German Army Attaché in Washington, told this reporter that the "Von Hutier" theory seemed to be confined to the British and Americans. He knew of no such ideas in German military doctrine or publications.
Given the wide adherence to the theory outside Germany, this may be a fertile field for further research.
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Post  CCDK79 Thu Jan 21, 2016 11:47 am

Interesting, I had forgotten about the whole Hutier deal, I wonder where Major Calsow and Hauptmann Rohr come in. From what I can figure out Rohr was in the Guards and Hutier had command of a guards unit on the western front in 1915. The notion of infiltration might have been mentioned but the terminology might have changed as it was put in the practice, thus obscuring the origin of the theory behind it further. The allies picked it up at the theoretical level during and after the war, while the germans worked from their own model adopted in the field perhaps?

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Post  Chromos Fri Jan 22, 2016 12:17 pm

Maybe it was that way.
Interestingly, the wiki entry for Stormtroopers has much more detail about it as the Hutier Entry. Calsow and Rohr are named next to Hutier etc.
It seems "similar" to the creation of the "Blitzkrieg doctrine". Maybe just "anglo saxon habit" of giving simple names to complex matters. Very Happy
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Post  CCDK79 Fri Jan 22, 2016 12:38 pm

Chromos wrote:Maybe it was that way.
Interestingly, the wiki entry for Stormtroopers has much more detail about it as the Hutier Entry. Calsow and Rohr are named next to Hutier etc.
It seems "similar" to the creation of the "Blitzkrieg doctrine". Maybe just "anglo saxon habit" of giving simple names to complex matters.  Very Happy

They do indeed like to keep it neat and simple, don't they? It's all fine and good when moving ahead, but it does make historical research difficult, all issues involving the birth of a concept or idea turn into fruitless questions on the level of what came first, the chicken? or the egg? In that regard that easy habit of theirs is kinda like shaving with a chainsaw to make sure that you won't have to shave 2 times a day, you just close your eyes, cross your fingers and give it your best, damn the consequences:)

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